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Maxim Masiutin
2004-08-31 21:32:07 UTC
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Hello Tbbeta,

Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi

Both MSIs have the same .EXE.

thebat_professional.msi is currently thebat_home.msi plus the language files from the International Pack.

In future, thebat_professional.msi will be a substitute for SecureBat!
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MaXxX
2004-08-31 21:34:15 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 11:32:07 PM, time seemed to stop as
Not until someone explains the outrageous v3 situation.
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Martin Webster on TBBETA
2004-08-31 21:37:36 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

On 31 August 2004, 00:32 +0300 (31/08/200422:32 local time) Maxim
Masiutin [MM] in mid:286492932743691542-***@public.gmane.org wrote:

MM> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi

MM> Both MSIs have the same .EXE.

MM> thebat_professional.msi is currently thebat_home.msi plus the
MM> language files from the International Pack.

MM> In future, thebat_professional.msi will be a substitute for SecureBat!

For the avoidance of doubt, please confirm that the Personal (home)
edition is the same fully featured version of TB! we enjoy now.
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:09:21 UTC
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Hello Martin,
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
For the avoidance of doubt, please confirm that the Personal (home)
edition is the same fully featured version of TB! we enjoy now.
Yes, it is the same. Professional version features hardware authentication and biometrics in addition to what The Bat! v2 have.
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Mark Partous
2004-09-01 06:50:14 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 2:09:21 AM, you wrote:

MM> hardware authentication and biometrics

Is there an option NOT to use these?
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 08:40:05 UTC
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Hello Mark,
Post by Mark Partous
Is there an option NOT to use these?
They are switched OFF by default.
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Martin Webster on TBBETA
2004-09-01 07:27:05 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

On 01 September 2004, 03:09 +0300 (01/09/200401:09 local time) Maxim
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
For the avoidance of doubt, please confirm that the Personal (home)
edition is the same fully featured version of TB! we enjoy now.
MM> Yes, it is the same. Professional version features hardware
MM> authentication and biometrics in addition to what The Bat! v2 have.

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Markus Wilhelm
2004-08-31 21:39:20 UTC
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Hi Maxim Masiutin,

Wednesday, September 1, 2004
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,
Stop dreaming, Maxim.
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:10:05 UTC
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Hello Markus,
Post by Markus Wilhelm
Stop dreaming, Maxim.
Our hard work will make those who are leaving to get back.
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Boris Anders
2004-09-01 00:31:41 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 02:10 you wrote at
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Post by Markus Wilhelm
Stop dreaming, Maxim.
Our hard work will make those who are leaving to get back.
So you have a lot to do: Look at http://www.batworld.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-Polls&file=index&req=results&pollID=11

I stay at v1/2
I search another MUA
I will update (right now)
I will update, if v3 ist stabile

I still don't now what to say about v3, nor whether I'll continue beta
testing (it seems that I not longer needed) or search another MUA.
Maybe I'll write if I are "down" again.

But one question: Wouldn't it be easier to convince the users for an
upgrade than to hit them and hope they come back?
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Thomas Martin
2004-09-01 00:42:45 UTC
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Hello Boris,
Post by Boris Anders
So you have a lot to do: Look at
http://www.batworld.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=NS-Polls&file=index&req=results&pollID=11
I stay at v1/2
I search another MUA
I will update (right now)
I will update, if v3 ist stabile
same results on www.thebatworld.de
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Fred van Veen
2004-08-31 21:52:02 UTC
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Hi Maxim,

Thebat_home.msi installed without any problems!
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
Both MSIs have the same .EXE.
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:10:54 UTC
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Hello Fred,
Post by Fred van Veen
Thebat_home.msi installed without any problems!
Thank you very much!!
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Paul Cartwright
2004-09-01 00:45:55 UTC
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Post by Fred van Veen
Thebat_home.msi installed without any problems!
MM> Thank you very much!!
thebat_professional3.0.msi installed just fine also, right over my 2.12.
Now control panel just says The Bat! ( Professional Edition)
when you click on support info it says 3.0.0.4
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 07:26:53 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
Now control panel just says The Bat! ( Professional Edition)
when you click on support info it says 3.0.0.4
Great! The Bat! 3.0 did unregister the old The Bat! entry from the Control Panel!
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David Elliott
2004-09-01 09:36:01 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
Post by Fred van Veen
Thebat_home.msi installed without any problems!
MM>> Thank you very much!!
Post by Paul Cartwright
thebat_professional3.0.msi installed just fine also, right over my 2.12.
Now control panel just says The Bat! ( Professional Edition)
when you click on support info it says 3.0.0.4
Not for me.

New install of XP with SP2
Install 2.12
Overload with last 2.x beta
Overload with first 3 beta
install intlang pack (msi)
Install 3 home
Install 3 pro

Now I have all three in the add / remove programs.
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Krzysztof Trybowski
2004-08-31 21:52:46 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Hello Tbbeta,
Sorry, no.
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2004-08-31 21:59:08 UTC
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Hey Maxim!
No problems here.
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:12:28 UTC
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Hello Carsten,
Post by Carsten Knobloch
No problems here.
Thanks alot too!
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Richard Wakeford
2004-08-31 22:01:32 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 you wrote in <mid:286492932743691542-***@public.gmane.org>

MM> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

Well it looks very much like lucky 8 on first impression. At least I can
use my own glyphs. So NFS is not an option now, there is no choice. I
personally don't mind that as I've used it for quite a while now.
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Doug Weller
2004-08-31 22:12:41 UTC
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Hi Richard,


Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 11:01:32 PM, you wrote:

Richard> Hello Maxim,

Richard> On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 you wrote in
Richard> <mid:286492932743691542-***@public.gmane.org>

MM>> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

Richard> Well it looks very much like lucky 8 on first impression. At least I can
Richard> use my own glyphs. So NFS is not an option now, there is no choice. I
Richard> personally don't mind that as I've used it for quite a while now.

I don't understand. Why is NFS not an option now?

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2004-08-31 22:47:58 UTC
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Hello Doug,

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 you wrote in <mid:65712062.20040831231241-***@public.gmane.org>

DW> I don't understand. Why is NFS not an option now?

I don't know but there's no check box at the bottom of the
"Account/Properties" box any more.
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MAU
2004-08-31 22:18:27 UTC
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Hello Richard,
At least I can use my own glyphs.
Are you sure about that? If I can use my own glyphs.bmp I may give it a
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Hello MAU,

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 you wrote in <mid:1181164947.20040901001827-DytkRPlLu8dWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

M> Are you sure about that? If I can use my own glyphs.bmp I may give it a
M> try.

Absolutely. Got my own set running now.
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Paul Cartwright
2004-08-31 22:53:39 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 6:46 PM, you wrote:

M>> Are you sure about that? If I can use my own glyphs.bmp I may give it a
M>> try.

RW> Absolutely. Got my own set running now.
does that fix the 1/2 icon issues??? care to share them???
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Hello Paul,

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 you wrote in <mid:18410307854.20040831185339-Wuw85uim5zBNg+***@public.gmane.orgt>

PC> does that fix the 1/2 icon issues??? care to share them???

All work fine for me. Rather than pester the whole group with a download
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MAU
2004-08-31 22:56:24 UTC
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Hello Richard,
Post by Richard Wakeford
Absolutely. Got my own set running now.
Thanks. I'm downloading ATM.
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2004-08-31 23:10:12 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 6:56 PM, you wrote:

M> Hello Richard,
Post by Richard Wakeford
Absolutely. Got my own set running now.
M> Thanks. I'm downloading ATM.

what is ATM???
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
what is ATM???
At The Moment :)
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Post by Paul Cartwright
what is ATM???
M> At The Moment :)

and now I forget the question!
ah well, I thought it had to do with truetypes, or icons.. not to
worry:)
but how DO I get the glyphs to work!!
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2004-08-31 23:48:12 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
but how DO I get the glyphs to work!!
As I said in my <mid:1184809391.20040901013456-DytkRPlLu8dWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>, I don't
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Thomas Martin
2004-09-01 00:01:06 UTC
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Hello MAU,
Post by MAU
know. Mine just work.
Just copy the file 'glyphs.bmp' into the The Bat! main folder and
activate in the 'Preferences - General ' the option 'High colors'.

That's it :)
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MAU
2004-09-01 00:24:19 UTC
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Hello Thomas,
Post by Thomas Martin
Just copy the file 'glyphs.bmp' into the The Bat! main folder and
activate in the 'Preferences - General ' the option 'High colors'.
That's right, I had the High Colors selected from my previous install..
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Paul Cartwright
2004-09-01 00:32:18 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 8:01 PM, you wrote:

TM> Just copy the file 'glyphs.bmp' into the The Bat! main folder and
TM> activate in the 'Preferences - General ' the option 'High colors'.

mine was already checked, and it does work !

TM> That's it :)

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2004-09-01 03:05:24 UTC
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Post by MAU
At least I can use my own glyphs.
Are you sure about that? If I can use my own glyphs.bmp I may give
it a try.
My own glyphs also work with the latest .msi installation...
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Paul White
2004-08-31 22:08:34 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
thebat_home.msi installed fine but it's a shame you didn't fix the
toolbar icons - still too big for a 800x600 screen and it'll now be
released as such. Looks like I shall now have to uninstall it :o(
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:13:59 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul White
thebat_home.msi installed fine but it's a shame you didn't fix the
toolbar icons - still too big for a 800x600 screen and it'll now be
released as such. Looks like I shall now have to uninstall it :o(
We will make the buttons smaller, i.e. there will be less free space around the new glyphs. Would it be OK?
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Marek Mikus
2004-09-01 00:16:29 UTC
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Hello all,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Post by Paul White
thebat_home.msi installed fine but it's a shame you didn't fix the
toolbar icons - still too big for a 800x600 screen and it'll now be
released as such. Looks like I shall now have to uninstall it :o(
We will make the buttons smaller, i.e. there will be less free
space around the new glyphs. Would it be OK?
what about ability to set buttons size? For example 32x32 (default),
24x24 and 16x16?
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Thomas Martin
2004-09-01 00:20:31 UTC
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Hello Marek,
Post by Marek Mikus
Post by Maxim Masiutin
We will make the buttons smaller, i.e. there will be less free
space around the new glyphs. Would it be OK?
what about ability to set buttons size? For example 32x32 (default),
24x24 and 16x16?
Opera Browser has a nice feature, which allows you to show the icons
in the toolbar from 10 - 100% scaling. That would solve all problems
for different scree solutions.
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Marek Mikus
2004-09-01 00:22:32 UTC
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Hello all,
Post by Thomas Martin
Post by Marek Mikus
Post by Maxim Masiutin
We will make the buttons smaller, i.e. there will be less free
space around the new glyphs. Would it be OK?
what about ability to set buttons size? For example 32x32 (default),
24x24 and 16x16?
Opera Browser has a nice feature, which allows you to show the icons
in the toolbar from 10 - 100% scaling. That would solve all problems
for different scree solutions.
such thing can be added later, not until release date (hour?).
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 07:23:04 UTC
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Hello Marek,
Post by Marek Mikus
what about ability to set buttons size? For example 32x32 (default),
24x24 and 16x16?
It seems that the buttons auto-adjust their size to the size of the glyphs. Arent' they?

There is a new glyph scheme in The Bat! 3.0. Now there are two files instead of bat_grp.bmp. First is the .INI file and the second is the translucent PNG file. It is the .INI file that specifies the sizes of the buttons, etc.

We will publish the specification soon.
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Miroslav Florensen
2004-09-01 00:46:55 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
We will make the buttons smaller, i.e. there will be less free
space around the new glyphs. Would it be OK?
yes, nice to here.

In v3 is still the same small bug, which I had already mentioned.

.----[ mid:234724952.20040821232106-***@public.gmane.org ]------
|
| there is a further UI bug in the account properties, visibly in all
| versions of the v2.13 betas. The symbols partly cut off and they are
| very closely together.
|
| Loading Image...
'-----------
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Thomas Martin
2004-08-31 22:35:40 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Both MSIs have the same .EXE.
Install works good, both versions, old glyphs work fine again.
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2004-09-01 00:15:50 UTC
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Hello Thomas,
Post by Thomas Martin
Install works good, both versions, old glyphs work fine again.
Thank you very much indeed!
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Allie Martin
2004-09-01 02:29:49 UTC
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Post by Maxim Masiutin
Thank you very much indeed!
Had no problems installing either. :)

The problems I had with the preferences are gone.

My only problem is that with the new glyphs, which in general I much
prefer to the old default ones, the IMAP folders are almost the same
colour when in read as opposed to unread status.

I now depend on the folder name emboldening to tell the difference.

Could the IMAP unread folder colour be made to look more different?...
please?
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Thomas Martin
2004-08-31 22:39:47 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Changlog available ?
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Maxim Masiutin
2004-09-01 00:19:19 UTC
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Hello Thomas,
Post by Thomas Martin
Changlog available ?
[-] (#0002029) With GnuPG, The Bat! didn't display signature verification result of Encrypted&Signed messages
[-] Some fixes in the BayesIt plugin
[-] Fixed some memory leaks
[-] Fixed AVs of previous betas
[-] Fixed glyph-related errors of of previous betas
[-] Other fixes ;-)
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2004-09-01 07:34:27 UTC
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Hello Martin,
The signature is checked - a window seems to pop up - but on my
system it is hidded behind the main window of TheBat. I saw it when I
closed TheBat. So there is a focus problem.
Couldn't report to BT - seems to be down.
Yes, we will get rid of this log window and will attach a "Signed" mark on the right of the header, same as with S/MIME.
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Marek Mikus
2004-09-01 00:21:11 UTC
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Hello all,
Post by Thomas Martin
Changlog available ?
look to Bugtraq, what was fixed today :-)
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Michael Henke
2004-08-31 22:39:36 UTC
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Hello Maxim!
No problems so far. Installation was fine, though I've got a window with
"Some task are active now [...]" after the very first launch.
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2004-08-31 22:43:28 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

On 31 August 2004, 00:32 +0300 (31/08/200422:32 local time) Maxim
Masiutin [MM] in mid:286492932743691542-***@public.gmane.org wrote:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi

I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
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2004-08-31 22:58:56 UTC
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Hello Martin,
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
not confirmed. Which System?
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MAU
2004-08-31 23:11:59 UTC
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Hello Thomas,
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0) Professional
Sorry to disturb you by PM. May I ask how did you get it registered?

TIA:
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MAU
2004-08-31 23:22:24 UTC
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Hello MAU,
Post by MAU
Sorry to disturb you by PM. May I ask how did you get it registered?
Ooops! This should have gone only as PM. Sorry.
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MAU
2004-08-31 23:17:10 UTC
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Hello Thomas,
Post by Thomas Martin
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
not confirmed. Which System?
Not here either.
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Paul Cartwright
2004-08-31 23:23:31 UTC
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Post by Thomas Martin
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
not confirmed. Which System?
M> Not here either.

I checked before doing the install, and the Bat! showed as being
occasionally used since 2002. Now it just shows Professional Edition,
no international pack.
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Martin Webster on TBBETA
2004-08-31 23:26:48 UTC
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Hello Thomas,

On 31 August 2004, 19:58 -0300 (23:58 local time) Thomas Martin [TM] in
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
TM> not confirmed. Which System?

XP Professional SP2... the International Pack uninstalled fine by itself
as did The Bat! entry (from a previous MSI I guess). I then ran the
repair option on the new MSI.

Perhaps this is a hang over from early MSI testing?
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2004-08-31 23:30:36 UTC
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Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
TM>> not confirmed. Which System?

MWoT> XP Professional SP2... the International Pack uninstalled fine by itself
MWoT> as did The Bat! entry (from a previous MSI I guess). I then ran the
MWoT> repair option on the new MSI.

must be, no international pack shows here, and my last TB MSI install
was a LONG time ago!
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Michael Geyer
2004-08-31 23:07:51 UTC
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Hi Martin and list,

On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 23:43:28 GMT +0100 (which was 00:43
where I live) Martin Webster on TBBETA wrote (at least in parts) and
Post by Martin Webster on TBBETA
I now have entries in the Control Panel for The Bat!, The Bat!
(Professional Edition) and The Bat! International Pack.
same here :-)
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2004-08-31 22:42:13 UTC
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Hi Maxim and list,

On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 00:32:07 GMT +0300 (which was 23:32
where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote (at least in parts) and made these
Post by Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
Installs ok, not having used a msi installation in the last beta-cycle, this is the
first one since 2.12.04.
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2004-09-01 00:19:56 UTC
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Hello Michael,
Post by Michael Geyer
Installs ok, not having used a msi installation in the last beta-cycle, this is the
first one since 2.12.04.
Congratulations with the debut!
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2004-08-31 23:12:23 UTC
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All went wonderfully well!

I might even say: beyond expectation ;-)


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Hello Arjan,
Post by Arjan de Groot
All went wonderfully well!
I might even say: beyond expectation ;-)
Positive feedback is what we now want! ;-)
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MAU
2004-08-31 23:16:28 UTC
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Hello Maxim,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
It's the first time I use .msi, I did a Custom and it went just fine.

BTW, nice to see the tabs in Preferences are gone :)

And nice I can use my beloved glyph.bmp
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Paul Cartwright
2004-08-31 23:25:52 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:16 PM, you wrote:

M> It's the first time I use .msi, I did a Custom and it went just fine.

I did complete, also no problems

M> BTW, nice to see the tabs in Preferences are gone :)

what tabs?? oh, never mind!!

M> And nice I can use my beloved glyph.bmp

I renamed the glyph.bmp to something else, and now the original glyphs
are whole, complete, work just fine. Why did the ones I had installed
only show as half icons?? and why do yours work??
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2004-08-31 23:34:56 UTC
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Hello Paul,

M>> BTW, nice to see the tabs in Preferences are gone :)
Post by Paul Cartwright
what tabs?? oh, never mind!!
The tabs were introduce in 3.0 beta/1 but I guess they have removed
them.

M>> And nice I can use my beloved glyph.bmp
Post by Paul Cartwright
I renamed the glyph.bmp to something else, and now the original glyphs
are whole, complete, work just fine. Why did the ones I had installed
only show as half icons?? and why do yours work??
I don't know. Mine didn't work either on beta/1 but they do now. I se
you use XP and I use Win2000. Could that be the difference?
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Paul Cartwright
2004-08-31 23:40:19 UTC
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 7:34 PM, you wrote:

M> The tabs were introduce in 3.0 beta/1 but I guess they have removed
M> them.

ah, I might not have checked preferences, that beta wasn't out long
enough :)

M>>> And nice I can use my beloved glyph.bmp
Post by Paul Cartwright
I renamed the glyph.bmp to something else, and now the original glyphs
are whole, complete, work just fine. Why did the ones I had installed
only show as half icons?? and why do yours work??
M> I don't know. Mine didn't work either on beta/1 but they do now. I se
M> you use XP and I use Win2000. Could that be the difference?


maybe I should put back the glyphs.bmp now that I have the final version
installed..
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2004-08-31 23:57:05 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
maybe I should put back the glyphs.bmp now that I have the final version
installed..
It sure doesn't work without the glyphs.bmp ;-)
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Paul Cartwright
2004-09-01 00:31:15 UTC
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Post by Paul Cartwright
maybe I should put back the glyphs.bmp now that I have the final version
installed..
M> It sure doesn't work without the glyphs.bmp ;-)

well :) heh, heh, it seems I renamed the glyphs.bmp in the BETA folder,
not the main folder.. I have the dual installation with the registry fix
to run TB in a separate folder for the beta version.. ANYWAY, the main
TB v3.0 glyphs.bmp is working fine !
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MAU
2004-09-01 00:37:41 UTC
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Hello Paul,
I have the dual installation with the registry fix to run TB in a
separate folder for the beta version..
How's that done?
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On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 8:37 PM, you wrote:

M> Hello Paul,
I have the dual installation with the registry fix to run TB in a
separate folder for the beta version..
M> How's that done?

they talked about that in TBOT a few weeks ago. so I created a new
folder C:\Program Files\TB_Beta
copied all of mail TB files and mail folders to it, created a shortcut,
with the target ="C:\Program Files\Thebat_beta\thebat.exe" /REG:beta
and START-IN= "C:\Program Files\Thebat_beta\"

so my wife runs the normal TB and I can run it OR the beta:)
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MAU
2004-09-01 07:23:30 UTC
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Hello Paul,
Post by Paul Cartwright
I have the dual installation with the registry fix to run TB in a
separate folder for the beta version..
M>> How's that done?
Post by Paul Cartwright
they talked about that in TBOT a few weeks ago. so I created a new
folder C:\Program Files\TB_Beta
copied all of mail TB files and mail folders to it, created a shortcut,
with the target ="C:\Program Files\Thebat_beta\thebat.exe" /REG:beta
and START-IN= "C:\Program Files\Thebat_beta\"
so my wife runs the normal TB and I can run it OR the beta:)
I'm not on TBOT so that explains why I had not heard about this 'trick'.
I'll try out next beta cycle.

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Hello all,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
thebat_professional.msi is currently thebat_home.msi plus the
language files from the International Pack.
- when I started this version and created new account, file
ACCOUNT.SRX was created and when I opened Sorting Office, Old
Filtering System appeared to me. When I created new filter and
restarted Sorting Office, New Filtering System correctly appeared

- when I open task in Scheduller, select Actions section and add new
action "Watch and Send files", options "Include sub-folders" and
"Exclude filemask" are disabled in General section

- there is no language file in professional edition

BTW why is not main window and MailTicker centered after fresh
installation? And why is MailTicker such small? Please test it on such
big screen too.
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Hello Zeynel,
Preferences is working OK now.
Thank you for the good news!
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2004-09-01 00:50:50 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 23:32 you wrote at
Well, I can count 4 Bugs in NFS (-> 9Val know them) and are surely a
lot more*. Further more, there are lots of bugs in this version - just
look in your BT.

I can only say: Please, don't release a version called "final" right
now, you loose the rest of (most german) users trust.

A final with known bugs? LOL!

* note that only 1 day of testing!
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2004-09-01 01:47:09 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 00:32:07 [GMT +0300] (which was 5:32:07
Pro version installed and functions fine here.

I noticed that I can now have three rows of toolbars instead of
only one and those that "float". Is this new?
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2004-09-01 02:25:18 UTC
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Greetings Maxim,

Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 5:32:07 PM, Maxim wrote:

M> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

M> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
M>
I loaded thebat_home.msi and used custom install. It did not prompt
for where to install. Apparently, it assumes you want to install in
same location as original. In custom mode you got the choices of what
to install but not where :( .
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2004-09-01 03:59:37 UTC
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Hello Wolffe,

Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 10:25:18 PM, you wrote:
mid:412149581.20040831222518-***@public.gmane.org

W> I loaded thebat_home.msi and used custom install. It did not prompt
W> for where to install. Apparently, it assumes you want to install in
W> same location as original. In custom mode you got the choices of what
W> to install but not where :( .

Confirmed. Click next then back and location can be changed.
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2004-09-01 05:42:43 UTC
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Hello Wolffe!
Post by Wolffe
I loaded thebat_home.msi and used custom install. It did not prompt
for where to install. Apparently, it assumes you want to install in
same location as original. In custom mode you got the choices of what
to install but not where :( .
You did not have a Change button?
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2004-09-01 10:13:19 UTC
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Hello Dierk,
Post by Wolffe
I loaded thebat_home.msi and used custom install. It did not prompt
for where to install. Apparently, it assumes you want to install in
same location as original. In custom mode you got the choices of what
to install but not where :( .
DH> You did not have a Change button?

It was there, but grayed out, path was not shown also. When I clicked
next, then clicked back the path was shown and the change button was
active.
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2004-09-01 10:31:23 UTC
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Hi John!
Post by John Seymour
DH> You did not have a Change button?
It was there, but grayed out, path was not shown also. When I clicked
next, then clicked back the path was shown and the change button was
active.
A feature has to be selected to enable the change button. Seems that if you
enter the dialog using custom no feature is selected, coming back selects
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2004-09-01 10:40:01 UTC
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Hello Raymund,
Post by John Seymour
DH> You did not have a Change button?
It was there, but grayed out, path was not shown also. When I clicked
next, then clicked back the path was shown and the change button was
active.
RT> A feature has to be selected to enable the change button. Seems that if you
RT> enter the dialog using custom no feature is selected, coming back selects
RT> one.

I chose custom install for two reasons. One was to disable Bayesit
install, another was to change the path to my nonstandard path
installation.
The change button is on the same menu page as the other options for
installation. After setting bayesit not to install I noticed that no
path was listed by the grayed out change button. That is when I chose
to click next, then back. Both the path and change button were
available then.
This is not normal behavior for MSI as I use them alot and most if not
all of my installs go to my dedicated program partition instead of
default.
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2004-09-01 12:01:59 UTC
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Hi John!
Post by John Seymour
This is not normal behavior for MSI as I use them alot and most if not
all of my installs go to my dedicated program partition instead of
default.
Well, you can choose the installation path for every feature on its own. If
you disabled BayesIt it doesn't make sense to change the path any longer, it
gets disabled. For any other feature it should still be possible to change
the path.

That is common for MSI installations. What is uncommon for The Bat! setup is
that you can't choose your installation path without choosing custom.
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2004-09-01 07:31:24 UTC
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Hello Wolffe,
Post by Wolffe
I loaded thebat_home.msi and used custom install. It did not prompt
for where to install. Apparently, it assumes you want to install in
same location as original. In custom mode you got the choices of what
to install but not where :( .
When you choose Custom Install, there is a button to change the installation path.
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2004-09-01 07:21:28 UTC
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Hi George!
I fired up the .msi file using my account which belongs to the
administrators group. If SYSTEM has no rights to the installation
directory this is what the user would get.
The Windows Installer runs as a service in the system account. So it needs
access to the .msi file. (But I still don't get why it can read the package
but fails if it should extract a file out of it.)

Regards,
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2004-09-01 07:41:15 UTC
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Hi Martin!
Post by Maxim Masiutin
Great! The Bat! 3.0 did unregister the old The Bat! entry from the
Control Panel!
Over here this didn't work. I have now two entries for TheBat in the
Software Control Panel.
Last time I tried that I run into the same problem.
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Prezes
2004-09-01 07:47:22 UTC
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Hello,
Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 11:32:07 PM, you wrote:

MM> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi

Can't install. Look at attachement. Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2
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2004-09-01 08:11:08 UTC
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Hi Prezes,
Post by Prezes
Can't install. Look at attachement. Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2
Maybe the same problem as George: Is the SYSTEM allowed to access the
directory?
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2004-09-01 08:33:22 UTC
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Hello,
Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:11:08 AM, you wrote:

RT> Maybe the same problem as George: Is the SYSTEM allowed to access the
RT> directory?

Yes, with Home Edition is the same - cannot install :-(
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2004-09-01 08:58:15 UTC
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Hi Prezes!
Post by Prezes
Yes, with Home Edition is the same - cannot install :-(
So you use the Home Edition of XP?

Ritlabs should include a macro to provide that information in the sig, too
:-)

I will download and test that with Home. There is nothing special in the
installation package. I wonder why it should be problematic with Home.
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2004-09-01 09:08:41 UTC
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Hi Prezes!
Post by Raymund Tump
Post by Prezes
Yes, with Home Edition is the same - cannot install :-(
So you use the Home Edition of XP?
Arrgh. Maybe Ritlabs should change the names of the The Bat! versions...

If you don't have XP Home please have a look at the security settings of the
directory you have the installation package. Is there an entry for SYSTEM?
If not try to copy the setup package to another place e.g. your "My
Documents" directory, and try the installation again.
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2004-09-01 09:49:11 UTC
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Hello,
Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 11:08:41 AM, you wrote:

RT> If you don't have XP Home please have a look at the security settings of the
RT> directory you have the installation package. Is there an entry for SYSTEM?
RT> If not try to copy the setup package to another place e.g. your "My
RT> Documents" directory, and try the installation again.

I don't use Home Edition of Windows XP (I use Professional). I copied
the installer to different folders/check security settings and none...
I can't install.
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2004-09-01 10:24:31 UTC
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R> Arrgh. Maybe Ritlabs should change the names of the The Bat! versions...


They just did! Maybe the idea of a Home and Pro version is to
reinforce Ritlabs links to/support of/compatibility with (delete
as appropriate) Windows XP? :/
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2004-09-01 09:30:48 UTC
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Hi Maxim,
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 00:32:07 [GMT +0300] (which was 23:32 where I live)
you wrote about: 'fixed 3.0'
Post by Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
Both MSIs have the same .EXE.
thebat_professional.msi is currently thebat_home.msi plus the language files from the International Pack.
Installed professional version. Looks ok, but the Help/Help Topics opens at
the page 'What is new in version 2.0'.
Also a lot of the new stuff (New Filter System) is not covered.

Not very professional I think...
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2004-09-01 09:28:46 UTC
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Hello Maxim Masiutin,
Post by Maxim Masiutin
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi
The first try crashed the system - all programs hanged (maybe due to a
conflict with a running program). I used the "custom install"...

The next try after system rebooting with "complete install" worked
fine...


By the way: Doubleclick on a link in an email opens two Firefox
windows. (Same with right click and "Diesen Link öffnen"-"open this
link"). Only one click on a link doesn't do anything.
Can anyone confirm this? Is that a known bug?
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2004-09-01 09:44:00 UTC
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Hey Stefan!
Post by Stefan Dorscht
By the way: Doubleclick on a link in an email opens two Firefox
windows. (Same with right click and "Diesen Link öffnen"-"open this
link"). Only one click on a link doesn't do anything.
Can anyone confirm this? Is that a known bug?
Its a bug with Firefox. I have hosted a regfix. I think, you are a
german, please read:
http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=2334&st=0&#entry22372

There is a Download for the Regfix.
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2004-09-01 09:46:31 UTC
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Hello Carsten Knobloch,
Post by Carsten Knobloch
Hey Stefan!
Post by Stefan Dorscht
By the way: Doubleclick on a link in an email opens two Firefox
windows. (Same with right click and "Diesen Link öffnen"-"open this
link"). Only one click on a link doesn't do anything.
Can anyone confirm this? Is that a known bug?
Its a bug with Firefox. I have hosted a regfix. I think, you are a
http://www.batboard.net/index.php?showtopic=2334&st=0&#entry22372
There is a Download for the Regfix.
Thanks. Should read more often batworld.net. ;-)

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On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 10:28:46 AM, Stefan wrote in message:
mid:866412452.20040901112846-***@public.gmane.org

S> The first try crashed the system - all programs hanged (maybe due to a
S> conflict with a running program). I used the "custom install"...

S> The next try after system rebooting with "complete install" worked
S> fine...


The exact same happened to me using Windows 98SE (my beta test
box) except I had closed all my running programs beforehand other
than Nod32 AV.
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Anne Registered Linux user #345132

Flying high with The Bat! v2.12.00 on Xandros Desktop Deluxe v2.0
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Peter Hampf
2004-09-01 09:06:56 UTC
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Hello Maxim,

Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 11:32:07 PM, you wrote:

MM> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_professional.msi

Installed like a charme here over Lucky beta 6 w/o any problems!
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Peter mailto:nospam-***@public.gmane.org


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Peter Meyns
2004-09-01 09:27:45 UTC
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Hi Maxim,
on Wed, 1 Sep 2004 00:32:07 +0300GMT you wrote:

MM> Could you please test the fixed 3.0 MSIs:

Home version installed without a problem. The original icons are still
too large to fit on my screen, but I re-activated my old glyphs.bmp,
which works fine now.

Good thing, I can at last verify PGP signatures in encrypted mails. :-)
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Peter

The Bat!, version 3.0, Windows 98, 4, 10, build 2222,
on an IBM Thinkpad 760XL at 133MHz, 80 MB RAM
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